Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is desirable to download improved software and programming from Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly filter AM, or is that an add-on?
bpnjensen wrote: > Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife > will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of > the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream > come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
> I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is > desirable to download improved software and programming from > Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC > otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
> And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly > filter AM, or is that an add-on?
Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.
> bpnjensen wrote: > > Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife > > will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of > > the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream > > come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
> > I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is > > desirable to download improved software and programming from > > Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC > > otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
> > And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly > > filter AM, or is that an add-on?
> Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.
bpnjensen wrote: > On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote: > > bpnjensen wrote: > > > Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife > > > will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of > > > the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream > > > come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
> > > I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is > > > desirable to download improved software and programming from > > > Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC > > > otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
> > > And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly > > > filter AM, or is that an add-on?
> > Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.
> > Your wife may still love you.
> OK. Why?
I'm searching for the right words. Perhaps D. Peter might help.
At any rate, one can spend just so much, and after one reaches a certain point, it ain't gonna help.
It has to do I think with the 'law' of diminishing returns, or something like that.
>> On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce<dx...@milestones.com> wrote: >>> bpnjensen wrote: >>>> Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife >>>> will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of >>>> the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream >>>> come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
>>>> I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is >>>> desirable to download improved software and programming from >>>> Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC >>>> otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
>>>> And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly >>>> filter AM, or is that an add-on?
>>> Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.
>>> Your wife may still love you.
>> OK. Why?
> I'm searching for the right words. Perhaps D. Peter might help.
> bpnjensen wrote: > > On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote: > > > bpnjensen wrote: > > > > Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife > > > > will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of > > > > the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream > > > > come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
> > > > I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is > > > > desirable to download improved software and programming from > > > > Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC > > > > otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
> > > > And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly > > > > filter AM, or is that an add-on?
> > > Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.
> > > Your wife may still love you.
> > OK. Why?
> I'm searching for the right words. Perhaps D. Peter might help.
> At any rate, one can spend just so much, and after one reaches a certain > point, it ain't gonna help.
> It has to do I think with the 'law' of diminishing returns, or something like > that.
> dxAce > Michigan > USA- Hide quoted text -
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Well, that's easy to enough to understand...that is EXACTLY how I felt (and still feel) about my Kiwa-modded Icom R75. For 50% more *at the time*, I could have gotten 5% more performance. But based on what I've seen for prices, the law of diminishing returns does not apply here in a straightforward manner. Good older radios like Drakes and the better JRCs don't seem to lose any value at all, and in many cases cost more than when they were new as collectibles.
OK - So I buy a used Drake R7 or R8B for $1,400, or a new K3 for $1,400.
Or an NRD-515 and a Sherwood SE-3 for $1,800 or any other decent but old radio for the same price range.
Unless I can find a place to dependably buy something of this calibre for much less than $1,500, why should I not get the newer one with better specs and modern features and upgradeable software/firmware? The Elecraft, in my estimation, is a significant improvement over the R75. The others I mention above, for the same price, are not.
Don't get me wrong - I'd love a Drake. But penny for penny, I think the Elecraft would be a better choice.
"D. Peter Maus" wrote: > On 3/8/10 11:23 , dxAce wrote:
> > bpnjensen wrote:
> >> On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce<dx...@milestones.com> wrote: > >>> bpnjensen wrote: > >>>> Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife > >>>> will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of > >>>> the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream > >>>> come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
> >>>> I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is > >>>> desirable to download improved software and programming from > >>>> Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC > >>>> otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
> >>>> And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly > >>>> filter AM, or is that an add-on?
> >>> Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.
> >>> Your wife may still love you.
> >> OK. Why?
> > I'm searching for the right words. Perhaps D. Peter might help.
> LOL!.
> Brother, if I could explain women......
I think I'm beginning to figure myself out!
At one period in my life, I was used to telling someone to do something, and I expected it to be done. No explanations needed.
At one time if I said 'go dig a hole over there', I didn't expect to deliver a long winded explanation of why I wanted the hole dug.
>>>> On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce<dx...@milestones.com> wrote: >>>>> bpnjensen wrote: >>>>>> Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife >>>>>> will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of >>>>>> the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream >>>>>> come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
>>>>>> I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is >>>>>> desirable to download improved software and programming from >>>>>> Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC >>>>>> otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
>>>>>> And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly >>>>>> filter AM, or is that an add-on?
>>>>> Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.
>>>>> Your wife may still love you.
>>>> OK. Why?
>>> I'm searching for the right words. Perhaps D. Peter might help.
>> LOL!.
>> Brother, if I could explain women......
> I think I'm beginning to figure myself out!
> At one period in my life, I was used to telling someone to do something, and I > expected it to be done. No explanations needed.
> At one time if I said 'go dig a hole over there', I didn't expect to deliver a long > winded explanation of why I wanted the hole dug.
> That has followed me through the rest of my life.
"D. Peter Maus" wrote: > On 3/8/10 11:38 , dxAce wrote:
> > "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
> >> On 3/8/10 11:23 , dxAce wrote:
> >>> bpnjensen wrote:
> >>>> On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce<dx...@milestones.com> wrote: > >>>>> bpnjensen wrote: > >>>>>> Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife > >>>>>> will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of > >>>>>> the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream > >>>>>> come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
> >>>>>> I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is > >>>>>> desirable to download improved software and programming from > >>>>>> Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC > >>>>>> otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
> >>>>>> And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly > >>>>>> filter AM, or is that an add-on?
> >>>>> Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.
> >>>>> Your wife may still love you.
> >>>> OK. Why?
> >>> I'm searching for the right words. Perhaps D. Peter might help.
> >> LOL!.
> >> Brother, if I could explain women......
> > I think I'm beginning to figure myself out!
> > At one period in my life, I was used to telling someone to do something, and I > > expected it to be done. No explanations needed.
> > At one time if I said 'go dig a hole over there', I didn't expect to deliver a long > > winded explanation of why I wanted the hole dug.
> > That has followed me through the rest of my life.
> It's not always a bad thing.
No, at the time it all worked out pretty well! But in 'real life', some folks expect more.
> At one period in my life, I was used to telling someone to do > something, and I > expected it to be done. No explanations needed.
> At one time if I said 'go dig a hole over there', I didn't expect to > deliver a long > winded explanation of why I wanted the hole dug.
> That has followed me through the rest of my life.
In the military, there's a kind of clarity. You know your place in things. You know your responsibilities. You get up in the morning, you know your mission, your purpose, and the expectations on you.
It's a more structured and orderly life. Less chaotic. Which, of course, clears your mind for the duties at hand should you find yourself in combat, where training becomes autonomic.
Out in the civilian world, things are not so clear.
> > >>>> On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce<dx...@milestones.com> wrote: > > >>>>> bpnjensen wrote: > > >>>>>> Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife > > >>>>>> will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of > > >>>>>> the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream > > >>>>>> come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
> > >>>>>> I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is > > >>>>>> desirable to download improved software and programming from > > >>>>>> Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC > > >>>>>> otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
> > >>>>>> And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly > > >>>>>> filter AM, or is that an add-on?
> > >>>>> Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.
> > >>>>> Your wife may still love you.
> > >>>> OK. Why?
> > >>> I'm searching for the right words. Perhaps D. Peter might help.
> > >> LOL!.
> > >> Brother, if I could explain women......
> > > I think I'm beginning to figure myself out!
> > > At one period in my life, I was used to telling someone to do something, and I > > > expected it to be done. No explanations needed.
> > > At one time if I said 'go dig a hole over there', I didn't expect to deliver a long > > > winded explanation of why I wanted the hole dug.
> > > That has followed me through the rest of my life.
> > It's not always a bad thing.
> No, at the time it all worked out pretty well! But in 'real life', some folks expect > more.
Holy crap... Rush just made mention of the last helicopter out of Saigon with regards to the Obama health 'plan'.
> > > >>>> On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce<dx...@milestones.com> wrote: > > > >>>>> bpnjensen wrote: > > > >>>>>> Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife > > > >>>>>> will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of > > > >>>>>> the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream > > > >>>>>> come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
> > > >>>>>> I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is > > > >>>>>> desirable to download improved software and programming from > > > >>>>>> Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC > > > >>>>>> otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
> > > >>>>>> And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly > > > >>>>>> filter AM, or is that an add-on?
> > > >>>>> Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.
> > > >>>>> Your wife may still love you.
> > > >>>> OK. Why?
> > > >>> I'm searching for the right words. Perhaps D. Peter might help.
> > > >> LOL!.
> > > >> Brother, if I could explain women......
> > > > I think I'm beginning to figure myself out!
> > > > At one period in my life, I was used to telling someone to do something, and I > > > > expected it to be done. No explanations needed.
> > > > At one time if I said 'go dig a hole over there', I didn't expect to deliver a long > > > > winded explanation of why I wanted the hole dug.
> > > > That has followed me through the rest of my life.
> > > It's not always a bad thing.
> > No, at the time it all worked out pretty well! But in 'real life', some folks expect > > more.
> Holy crap... Rush just made mention of the last helicopter out of Saigon with regards to > the Obama health 'plan'.
> What a 'rush'.
Some might wish to Google 'operation frequent wind' to learn more about the evacuation of Saigon.
As I recall, it may have been the largest group of naval ships since the D-Day landings, and probably will never be seen again.
bpnjensen wrote: > Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife > will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of > the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream > come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
> I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is > desirable to download improved software and programming from > Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC > otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
> And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly > filter AM, or is that an add-on?
> Thanks, > Bruce
It's totally self-contained if you want to use it that way. It even decodes "Morse" and PSK31 on the front panel. The FlexRadio requires a host computer running Windows Direct X 9, which is why I didn't consider getting one. I like PowerSDR, but I'm not going to spend $200+ on Windows to run one app.
>> Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife >> will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of >> the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream >> come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
>> I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is >> desirable to download improved software and programming from >> Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC >> otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
>> And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly >> filter AM, or is that an add-on?
> Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.
bpnjensen wrote: > Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife > will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of > the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream > come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
> I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is > desirable to download improved software and programming from > Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC > otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
> And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly > filter AM, or is that an add-on?
> Thanks, > Bruce
I'd seriously considered the K3, but another Ham who owns a couple of them told me he doesn't like them at all for sideband. He feels the audio is rather thin.
So he uses his K3's for CW contest work, and he has a pair of Yaesu FT-1000mp's for sideband.
I was on the Elecraft reflector for a couple months, and I can tell you they seem to do updates to firmware on a weekly basis (maybe even more often) but there was also some grousing that the updates all seem to be for folks who use CW instead of phone.
You don't need to have the radio hooked up to a computer for operation, but if you want to install every update, it might make sense to leave it hooked up.
The General Coverage bandpass module is a $140 option. I believe you'll also need a $126 6khz filter.
I ended up buying a Ten-tec Jupiter. The Omni VII has a stronger front end (helpful when someone is running 1500w a couple khz away), but the audio on the Jupiter is quite nice, and the fish finder is pretty neat. I think I can just about shoehorn it into a car loaded with stuff for a star party.
> On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote: > > bpnjensen wrote: > > > Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife > > > will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of > > > the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream > > > come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
> > > I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is > > > desirable to download improved software and programming from > > > Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC > > > otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
> > > And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly > > > filter AM, or is that an add-on?
> > Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.
> > Your wife may still love you.
> > dxAce > > Michigan > > USA
> OK. Why?
Cause DxAce is a Drake fanboi?
The only thing Drake ever made I really want, or want to keep is the R7A. The R8 and R8A, I sold pretty quickly. --
BDK.. Leader of the nonexistent paid shills. Non Jew Jew Club founding member. Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.
BDK wrote: > In article <ca58e1d1-8c1d-4355-ac8f- > 8327afe36...@x1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, bpnjen...@yahoo.com says... > > On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote: > > > bpnjensen wrote: > > > > Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife > > > > will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of > > > > the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream > > > > come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
> > > > I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is > > > > desirable to download improved software and programming from > > > > Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC > > > > otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
> > > > And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly > > > > filter AM, or is that an add-on?
> > > Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.
> > > Your wife may still love you.
> > > dxAce > > > Michigan > > > USA
> > OK. Why?
> Cause DxAce is a Drake fanboi?
> The only thing Drake ever made I really want, or want to keep is the > R7A.
You can get an R7 and turn it into an R7A rather quickly! They are essentially one and the same.
> > In article <ca58e1d1-8c1d-4355-ac8f- > > 8327afe36...@x1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, bpnjen...@yahoo.com says... > > > On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote: > > > > bpnjensen wrote: > > > > > Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife > > > > > will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of > > > > > the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream > > > > > come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
> > > > > I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is > > > > > desirable to download improved software and programming from > > > > > Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC > > > > > otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
> > > > > And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly > > > > > filter AM, or is that an add-on?
> > > > Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.
> > > > Your wife may still love you.
> > > > dxAce > > > > Michigan > > > > USA
> > > OK. Why?
> > Cause DxAce is a Drake fanboi?
> > The only thing Drake ever made I really want, or want to keep is the > > R7A.
> You can get an R7 and turn it into an R7A rather quickly! They are essentially > one and the same.
Off the top of my head (pointy as it may be) as I recall, the difference between the R7 and the R7A was that the R7A came standard with the noise blanker (NB7A, at the time) and I think the 500 kc CW filter, AND, a jumper across the filter board which APPROXIMATED a 6 kHz filter for AM reception.
I currently have an R7 with 8, 6, 4, 3, and 2.3 kHz filters, the NB7A noise blanker and the AUX7 board.
> > > In article <ca58e1d1-8c1d-4355-ac8f- > > > 8327afe36...@x1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, bpnjen...@yahoo.com says... > > > > On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote: > > > > > bpnjensen wrote: > > > > > > Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife > > > > > > will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of > > > > > > the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream > > > > > > come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
> > > > > > I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is > > > > > > desirable to download improved software and programming from > > > > > > Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC > > > > > > otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
> > > > > > And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly > > > > > > filter AM, or is that an add-on?
> > > > > Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.
> > > > > Your wife may still love you.
> > > > > dxAce > > > > > Michigan > > > > > USA
> > > > OK. Why?
> > > Cause DxAce is a Drake fanboi?
> > > The only thing Drake ever made I really want, or want to keep is the > > > R7A.
> > You can get an R7 and turn it into an R7A rather quickly! They are essentially > > one and the same.
> Off the top of my head (pointy as it may be) as I recall, the difference between > the R7 and the R7A was that the R7A came standard with the noise blanker (NB7A, at > the time) and I think the 500 kc CW filter, AND, a jumper across the filter board > which APPROXIMATED a 6 kHz filter for AM reception.
> I currently have an R7 with 8, 6, 4, 3, and 2.3 kHz filters, the NB7A noise > blanker and the AUX7 board.- Hide quoted text -
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That R7 you have sounds like the perfect outfit. No external VFO?
bpnjensen wrote: > On Mar 8, 12:45 pm, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote: > > dxAce wrote: > > > BDK wrote:
> > > > In article <ca58e1d1-8c1d-4355-ac8f- > > > > 8327afe36...@x1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, bpnjen...@yahoo.com says... > > > > > On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote: > > > > > > bpnjensen wrote: > > > > > > > Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife > > > > > > > will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of > > > > > > > the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream > > > > > > > come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
> > > > > > > I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is > > > > > > > desirable to download improved software and programming from > > > > > > > Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC > > > > > > > otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
> > > > > > > And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly > > > > > > > filter AM, or is that an add-on?
> > > > > > Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.
> > > > The only thing Drake ever made I really want, or want to keep is the > > > > R7A.
> > > You can get an R7 and turn it into an R7A rather quickly! They are essentially > > > one and the same.
> > Off the top of my head (pointy as it may be) as I recall, the difference between > > the R7 and the R7A was that the R7A came standard with the noise blanker (NB7A, at > > the time) and I think the 500 kc CW filter, AND, a jumper across the filter board > > which APPROXIMATED a 6 kHz filter for AM reception.
> > I currently have an R7 with 8, 6, 4, 3, and 2.3 kHz filters, the NB7A noise > > blanker and the AUX7 board.- Hide quoted text -
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> That R7 you have sounds like the perfect outfit. No external VFO?
No, for a long time I wanted to try the RV75 VFO with the R7 which I'm led to believe is more stable. At one time, I did have a mint in the box RV75, however, I didn't have the 1544 adapter that went with it to hook up to the R7/A.
But, if one has an R7/A, no need for an extra VFO, turn the darn thing on, it will warm up, and after all, that's what the tuning knob is for.
> > > > > In article <ca58e1d1-8c1d-4355-ac8f- > > > > > 8327afe36...@x1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, bpnjen...@yahoo.com says... > > > > > > On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote: > > > > > > > bpnjensen wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife > > > > > > > > will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of > > > > > > > > the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream > > > > > > > > come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
> > > > > > > > I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is > > > > > > > > desirable to download improved software and programming from > > > > > > > > Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC > > > > > > > > otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
> > > > > > > > And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly > > > > > > > > filter AM, or is that an add-on?
> > > > > > > Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.
> > > > > The only thing Drake ever made I really want, or want to keep is the > > > > > R7A.
> > > > You can get an R7 and turn it into an R7A rather quickly! They are essentially > > > > one and the same.
> > > Off the top of my head (pointy as it may be) as I recall, the difference between > > > the R7 and the R7A was that the R7A came standard with the noise blanker (NB7A, at > > > the time) and I think the 500 kc CW filter, AND, a jumper across the filter board > > > which APPROXIMATED a 6 kHz filter for AM reception.
> > > I currently have an R7 with 8, 6, 4, 3, and 2.3 kHz filters, the NB7A noise > > > blanker and the AUX7 board.- Hide quoted text -
> > > - Show quoted text -
> > That R7 you have sounds like the perfect outfit. No external VFO?
> No, for a long time I wanted to try the RV75 VFO with the R7 which I'm led to believe is > more stable. At one time, I did have a mint in the box RV75, however, I didn't have the > 1544 adapter that went with it to hook up to the R7/A.
> But, if one has an R7/A, no need for an extra VFO, turn the darn thing on, it will warm > up, and after all, that's what the tuning knob is for.
Will I sell it? Maybe, after Odumbo and Emanuel are tried, convicted, and hung by the neck on the steps of our great Capitol.
My illustrious relative, Abraham Lincoln, whom I'm related to by both blood and marriage would be proud of me.
I fear nothing, as did those who preceded me who pledged their lives and their fortunes.
> > > > > > In article <ca58e1d1-8c1d-4355-ac8f- > > > > > > 8327afe36...@x1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, bpnjen...@yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > bpnjensen wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife > > > > > > > > > will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of > > > > > > > > > the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream > > > > > > > > > come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
> > > > > > > > > I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is > > > > > > > > > desirable to download improved software and programming from > > > > > > > > > Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC > > > > > > > > > otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
> > > > > > > > > And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly > > > > > > > > > filter AM, or is that an add-on?
> > > > > > > > Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.
> > > > > > The only thing Drake ever made I really want, or want to keep is the > > > > > > R7A.
> > > > > You can get an R7 and turn it into an R7A rather quickly! They are essentially > > > > > one and the same.
> > > > Off the top of my head (pointy as it may be) as I recall, the difference between > > > > the R7 and the R7A was that the R7A came standard with the noise blanker (NB7A, at > > > > the time) and I think the 500 kc CW filter, AND, a jumper across the filter board > > > > which APPROXIMATED a 6 kHz filter for AM reception.
> > > > I currently have an R7 with 8, 6, 4, 3, and 2.3 kHz filters, the NB7A noise > > > > blanker and the AUX7 board.- Hide quoted text -
> > > > - Show quoted text -
> > > That R7 you have sounds like the perfect outfit. No external VFO?
> > No, for a long time I wanted to try the RV75 VFO with the R7 which I'm led to believe is > > more stable. At one time, I did have a mint in the box RV75, however, I didn't have the > > 1544 adapter that went with it to hook up to the R7/A.
> > But, if one has an R7/A, no need for an extra VFO, turn the darn thing on, it will warm > > up, and after all, that's what the tuning knob is for.
> Will I sell it? Maybe, after Odumbo and Emanuel are tried, convicted, and hung by the neck > on the steps of our great Capitol.
> My illustrious relative, Abraham Lincoln, whom I'm related to by both blood and marriage > would be proud of me.
> I fear nothing, as did those who preceded me who pledged their lives and their fortunes.- Hide quoted text -
> > > > > > > In article <ca58e1d1-8c1d-4355-ac8f- > > > > > > > 8327afe36...@x1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, bpnjen...@yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > bpnjensen wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife > > > > > > > > > > will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of > > > > > > > > > > the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream > > > > > > > > > > come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
> > > > > > > > > > I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is > > > > > > > > > > desirable to download improved software and programming from > > > > > > > > > > Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC > > > > > > > > > > otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
> > > > > > > > > > And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly > > > > > > > > > > filter AM, or is that an add-on?
> > > > > > > > > Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.
> > > > > > > The only thing Drake ever made I really want, or want to keep is the > > > > > > > R7A.
> > > > > > You can get an R7 and turn it into an R7A rather quickly! They are essentially > > > > > > one and the same.
> > > > > Off the top of my head (pointy as it may be) as I recall, the difference between > > > > > the R7 and the R7A was that the R7A came standard with the noise blanker (NB7A, at > > > > > the time) and I think the 500 kc CW filter, AND, a jumper across the filter board > > > > > which APPROXIMATED a 6 kHz filter for AM reception.
> > > > > I currently have an R7 with 8, 6, 4, 3, and 2.3 kHz filters, the NB7A noise > > > > > blanker and the AUX7 board.- Hide quoted text -
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
> > > > That R7 you have sounds like the perfect outfit. No external VFO?
> > > No, for a long time I wanted to try the RV75 VFO with the R7 which I'm led to believe is > > > more stable. At one time, I did have a mint in the box RV75, however, I didn't have the > > > 1544 adapter that went with it to hook up to the R7/A.
> > > But, if one has an R7/A, no need for an extra VFO, turn the darn thing on, it will warm > > > up, and after all, that's what the tuning knob is for.
> > Will I sell it? Maybe, after Odumbo and Emanuel are tried, convicted, and hung by the neck > > on the steps of our great Capitol.
> > My illustrious relative, Abraham Lincoln, whom I'm related to by both blood and marriage > > would be proud of me.
> > I fear nothing, as did those who preceded me who pledged their lives and their fortunes.- Hide quoted text -
> On Mar 8, 9:23 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:
> > bpnjensen wrote: > > > On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote: > > > > bpnjensen wrote: > > > > > Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife > > > > > will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of > > > > > the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream > > > > > come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
> > > > > I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is > > > > > desirable to download improved software and programming from > > > > > Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC > > > > > otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
> > > > > And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly > > > > > filter AM, or is that an add-on?
> > > > Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.
> > > > Your wife may still love you.
> > > OK. Why?
> > I'm searching for the right words. Perhaps D. Peter might help.
> > At any rate, one can spend just so much, and after one reaches a certain > > point, it ain't gonna help.
> > It has to do I think with the 'law' of diminishing returns, or something like > > that.
> Well, that's easy to enough to understand...that is EXACTLY how I felt > (and still feel) about my Kiwa-modded Icom R75. For 50% more *at the > time*, I could have gotten 5% more performance. But based on what > I've seen for prices, the law of diminishing returns does not apply > here in a straightforward manner. Good older radios like Drakes and > the better JRCs don't seem to lose any value at all, and in many cases > cost more than when they were new as collectibles.
> OK - So I buy a used Drake R7 or R8B for $1,400, or a new K3 for > $1,400.
> Or an NRD-515 and a Sherwood SE-3 for $1,800 or any other decent but > old radio for the same price range.
> Unless I can find a place to dependably buy something of this calibre > for much less than $1,500, why should I not get the newer one with > better specs and modern features and upgradeable software/firmware? > The Elecraft, in my estimation, is a significant improvement over the > R75. The others I mention above, for the same price, are not.
> Don't get me wrong - I'd love a Drake. But penny for penny, I think > the Elecraft would be a better choice.
> Bruce
The K3 has a better receiver than the R75, but the fact that it has better receiver specs than the R75 does not imply that it would be a better radio *for you* than the R75. The K3 is is a contest rig, designed for use in extremely crowded, contest-type band conditions and deep CW pileups. This is why it's a favorite on DXpeditions when people know there'll be hundreds of people calling them simultaneously. If you spend a signficant amount of time operating under these conditions, then you should definitely get the K3. On the other hand, if you're more interested in DXing utility stations and that kind of thing, then you might never hear anything on the K3 that you could not hear on the R75. Spending your money on new antennas, phasing units or other odds and ends might give you more bang for your buck in that case.
> > In article <ca58e1d1-8c1d-4355-ac8f- > > 8327afe36...@x1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, bpnjen...@yahoo.com says... > > > On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote: > > > > bpnjensen wrote: > > > > > Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife > > > > > will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of > > > > > the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream > > > > > come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.
> > > > > I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is > > > > > desirable to download improved software and programming from > > > > > Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC > > > > > otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?
> > > > > And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly > > > > > filter AM, or is that an add-on?
> > > > Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.
> > > > Your wife may still love you.
> > > > dxAce > > > > Michigan > > > > USA
> > > OK. Why?
> > Cause DxAce is a Drake fanboi?
> > The only thing Drake ever made I really want, or want to keep is the > > R7A.
> You can get an R7 and turn it into an R7A rather quickly! They are essentially > one and the same.
One of these days I'll find one at the same time I have some spare cash. I always find one when I'm a couple hundred short. Or, if I have a big wad of cash, it's not worth half what a decent one goes for. --
BDK.. Leader of the nonexistent paid shills. Non Jew Jew Club founding member. Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.
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